Lets call this the intuitive hunch of an MI veteran. Suspect arrives before 2pm and cheats on his girlfriend in the car and then goes walking across the bridge with her and into the trails. FSG along with others present at the bridge have been investigated as possible lookouts for BG. There are men going down on this all the time all over the US. I guess he cant make up his mind. Is he somebody big in law enforcement? Yes, I think Mr. X did this crime. If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? You are promoting mob mentality here - after all not everyone youve named can be BG. This whole case just reeks of something stinky every which way you turn. I actually looked into the possibility that DP could be covering for someone. No one has. Its certainly possible that she may well have not recognized Mr. X, even though he was apparently a neighbor. That could be why they referred to BG as a creepy guy and still following us. Otherwise, and putting myself in their situation, if I saw someone at a distance on the bridge, I would have thought it was just another hiker and would not have been concerned that he was still following me. Have you guys/Skip discussed or explored the theory that DP is covering for someone else - hence the inconsistencies to his story. Who is Skip that you think "he is traveling to Delphi to answer questions, sort fact from fiction and definitively disprove the countless false claims and bad information that has spread about this case"?? At the very least he could have made misleading statements. Occupation: Handicrafter making wooden signs. We have no idea why the order was issued. Im really worried about people bothering or harming this guy and his family. There would have to be some sort of connection to Mr. X for me to suspect him, and I dont see any as of yet other than odd behavior in searching for the girls. But all theories must be judged against their competitors (Occams). Its all about the zero-sum game. What would be Mr X reason for leaving them there? The LE source didnt work on the case. Well, the police have told us that they have a main suspect in this case, so at least I am just going to go with the cops on this one. Some of it, I feel, is the result of intentional obfuscation. If so, why? That most likely wouldn't happen without resources like this constantly keeping attention on cases. There is no doubt in my mind or anyone who is in possession of an IQ higher than double digit range that Ron Logan is not the killer. family/fianc/false alibi providers), or more than meets the eye with this suspect. We have your fingerprints on the counter.. I noticed your nice comment on my YouTube page, thank you so much for your reply! Deals with gruesome matters concerning the brutal sex murders of four female minors mostly about two young teenage girls aged 13 and 14 but also a bit about related murders of two little girls aged 8 and 10. No one knows if he did this crime or not. There was some sort of a large object, apparently of toy, at the crime scene that was too large for BG to have had it with him on the bridge. Also, I dont know what to make of this. WRITTEN IN CAPS, APOLOGIES, BUT EVERYONE NEEDS TO KNOW THIS. So, to end my novel, I agree with you. Thank you. Wouldnt 13-14 year old girls be past dolls and stuffed animals? That most likely wouldn't happen without resources like this constantly keeping attention on cases. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ, Add Iran to That Sino-Russian Alliance While You Are at It, More Crazy (Obsessive and Conspiratorial) Antisemitism, This Is Almost Certainly the Single Most Inexplicable Series of Geopolitical Blunders in Recorded History, The Rules-Based Order the US Keeps Blabbing about, The Jewish Conspiracy To Subject Humankind. Most of them are from the other sub. In the case that I did find false information, please feel free to contact me in the comments below or by email. ? thats tough luck usually)I agree with him that it was probably Logan that gave the cops details on Kirts to get out of the clink The cops say the killer made a mistakeI bet it was probably something left behind in one of Logans barns or shacks. Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 2 /// 510 Part 2 of 3 www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. Too fucking bad. To say these girls had things shoved in them without proof is horrible for their parents. Who says those videos are from him? There are some absolutely fascinating old rumors on there that I have never heard before, mostly having to do with Young BG and his possible presence or involvement at the crime scene. A podcast called The Murder Sheet talked to another woman who said her interactions with Kline started when she was only 12 years old. He has connections with current LE officers. That is the statement from the woman on the search team. Lawyered up, not talking. Please. He could have worn those boots over his jeans, and he wouldnt have gotten wet. Im not stupid. FSG has been someone that I cannot let go of either. Gas station attendant noticed something off with him, but hasnt made the connection! At this point, they dont even have enough for an arrest. Hmm . The bodies were dumped near flowing water, creeks or rivers. If you wish to join, please go here. Abby and Libby were murdered after going for a hike near an old bridge in February 2017. She was found in an ivory/white dress. These two men, driving in the younger mans black truck with pink stripe, were witnessed in the vicinity on or near the cemetery road at approximately 5:30 AM February 14, 2017. Nobody is solving this here, if you think your googling skills are more powerful than the literal FBI, who actually do have all the evidence, millions of dollars and a plethora of science labs then I will dox myself so you can turn up and slap me in my face personally. What? I am running into one issue with Mr. X. I was wondering if there might be a different thought on this. If you have saved images or conversations with the anthony_shots profile, please attach them to your email, the release said. Then there is always the question of his occupation. Whatever it was that caused her to react in such a way, I just hope she shared with law enforcement. This means that they have at least one fired cartridge. Hey, its a capitalist country, right? The category below Proven is ally called Unverified with Different Qualifications. Please. The motive is apparently lust murder motivated by sexual sadism combined with psychopathy, the classic formulation almost all serial killers have. I'll be happy to represent Nic and the Captain if it happens. If you guys haven't watched this guy, you should. However, shouldnt that same exact principle/logic apply to Mr. X? Admitting his culpability only after lying to law enforcement, whom he first told that the girl shot herself while cleaning her weapon. Alex Murdaugh Takes the Stand in His Own Murder Trial: "I Did Lie",All the highlights from Alex Murdaugh's testimony when he took the stand as a witness in his own murder trial, including lying about his alibi. It turns out that we have acquired a sleuth who is a former detective. Then the girl he left on the trails comes to find him below the bridge around 3pm and she argues with him for not coming back quickly (he was delayed killing the girls and FSG hears them arguing at 3pm). They just think its a sin that needs to be overcome. I understand that all of my information may not be correct. not sure I agree . I must say, its obvious that Skip is about four levels higher than Grey Hughes. It has been said there were dolls and stuffed animals around the girls. We will discuss things we learned in the Perry Freeman interview on Saturday night as well as other thoughts about what could be happening in the case.Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/DelphiMurders/https://pdresources.wordpress.com/201https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blhttps://www.innocentlivesfoundation.oAs a friendly reminder, I do the BEST research I possibly can before posting every single one of my videos. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I don't even have a solid theory atm really because I've discredited a bunch of my own. The problem is that there is a main suspect in the case, and it is known that he was near the crime scene from 6:30 PM on the 13th until 9:30 PM on the 14th. We are joined in the Garage by Skip Jansen to discuss a new suspect and a theory that is catching fire! You just dont know what a person is capable of. This Video is protected under copyright laws and violators will be prosecuted. Im also sure that its used as a tactic to convince the public that they were completely justified in making whatever decisions they felt required justification. Keep in mind that we are not claiming that anything listed below as Unverified is true, although some it has a good chance of being true. The last person on Earth to protect the killer is poor Becky Patty, God bless her mortal soul. I am having trouble reconciling something.. if Mr X is who I think he is, you state that he graduated in 1984 but I am finding by looking at the Delphi yearbooks online, that he graduated in 1986? - would this mean that Qs DNA could be used to see if it is a familial match to bridge guy? Possible Harley buddies (friends who ride Harley-Davidson motorcycles), as Mike is an avid Harley rider. What I should have asked is just what if anything has Ron Logan said about the photo and left out if the guy on the bridge (BG) was a friend of Ron Logans because obviously if he was a friend we would now know who BG is. I long held that Evansdale and Delphi were connected due to the inversely related murder dates and MOAs. Get real. R/LibbyandAbby does allow rumors and speculations, so at least they get some good posts and posters, while the overall mood is still a downer. I like some of these guys. I see you may have particular interest in the Evansdale case due to proximity. 13) Search Shell station footage in between 25 miles from crime scene throughout. BG is obviously a middle-aged man around 50. They think he did it. The date of the crime and the time of the abduction are both 2-13. Theyve been doing this from the very start, so this is nothing new. A transcript of what they thought was being said was agreed on by this group. Dads not talking. 12) Buried clothing of his stained with the girls blood on his property! 242? There was a knife sticking out of the log next to one girls head. I am a retired Detective Chief previously responsible for the Criminal Investigation Department and all of the 80 plus detectives within as well as a senior investigative officer with experience of leading murder enquiries. So, yes, although the Evansdale girls were mere skeletons when found, LE believes they were posed. Any info you can get us on this will be much appreciated! I realize unsolved would be a magnet for that but wow. Thats all you can do is refine the theories you have and check stuff off your list with the little info we have been given. With Skip and Faceman's theory, this is starting to make sense. Of course Ron Logan didnt do it. Were the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Net for years now. Here are the main things that ALLEGEDLY (no proof guys, just what I received) stood out to me: 1) I got three names, of which, per your instruction, I will not provide here. The Reddit sites are pretty useless too, mostly because most posters regard the best sources on this crime as false. Deer kits have five knives, so we assume this one does too. I cant tell you how many searches I participated in when I was in uniform for kids this age. I'll be happy to represent Nic and the Captain if it happens. He prefers whiskey, its his drink of choice and hes off without it. Mr. Lindsay, FSG is at the trails every day. She recorded them for a good six minutes and definitely longer. Tough shit. She still hasnt been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. I think what you meant to say is that the Supreme Court ruled that if the police lie to a suspect during an interrogation, his eventual admission of guilt can be considered by the jury. He took it with him in some sort of hunting pack? One last side note.. Nic stated in the podcast that Indiana collects DNA for all individuals convicted of a felony but it's actually anyone arrested for a felony, which is a much lower threshold. Bottom line is the quality of our sources has increased dramatically over time. In general, the less said about the other aspects of his life the better, and they have no relationship to this case anyway. Residence at time of crime: Delphi, Indiana since 1984. YesGo to the very first article and I believe there is a Donate button on the page. Theres only one parent. Only thing I can come up with if we go with the rumors is that he draped them with the sheet that had the smiley face on it perhaps? We have 250 members in our group. Its a dead end. LE doesnt have much in the way of good, solid evidence against Mr. X. Person of Interest is a much higher standard than unnamed suspect, and he hasnt even risen to that level yet. I dont know what these names mean. Weve been proven correct on eight different things that only the police could have known. So the stellar members of LE have RL arrested and sent to jail all the while knowing he couldnt have committed this crime but doing NOTHING to stop the entire community from believing, first, that RL was a main suspect in the case,, and second, believing that he was in jail because he was a suspect! He is one of the first and only witnesses in this case!!. Theyre generally unusable. Are you speculating? Please email if you do not want to reply here. Thank you. In my option the perp is home grown. We dont know who his roommate was in Delphi and then again in Evansdale, and we also dont know what sort of work they had both been moved over there for. It says at one point apparently Machine Operator as a title, but then the vid definitely makes it a point to focus on Christian Teen Club. Not sure what the implication is there, but one can certainly imagine. In the Delphi Murders: 2/13: The Delphi Murders were committed on February 13, 2017. He doesnt want to get uncovered revealing official case documents to the media. They are looking for exactly 43 seconds of audio that BG recorded. Yes, this man is the prime suspect at the moment, but that doesnt mean a whole lot. They say they want to prevent false confessions. Find these clothes, they will be what solves this! DP placed himself at the scene, has changed his story and lied to LE. She has channeled her pain into grief and sadness. 1 hr. FSG, or DMC: Probably shouldnt use his real name, but hes on everybodys suspect list. Delphi Murders- Live- An Evening With Skip Jansen 3,020 views Streamed live on Apr 9, 2022 125 Dislike Share Save Kristin Behind The Crime Door 1.57K subscribers Skip and I will discuss. I guess this need continues into adulthood, but I like a little meat on my bone. We are joined in the Garage by Skip Jansen to discuss a new suspect and a theory that is . However, these are all unconfirmed rumors. There are neighbors separated by acreage. Thank u. before that he was at dump and after that he went to fish store. He did commit the crime because the younger sketch is just BG in catfish form, his other younger personality that he used to snare victims. So many armchair-detective, keyboard warriors who want to insert themselves into something they know nothing about; if they had any sense, they would realize that he is traveling to Delphi to answer questions, sort fact from fiction and definitively disprove the countless false claims and bad information that has spread about this case. Hey I wanted to see what you think on Kirts now with the time thats passed, and lot more evidence published out there (mainly the Open Secrets YouTube channel interviews with Kirts & CM)..& Ed Bounds YouTube channel Crime PursuitBoth have incredible detail with Kirts himself seriously all but admitting to being the Delphi suspect. This may extend to age 15. FSG didnt recognize him either, and Im sure that FSG and Mr. X knew each other. Were they are waiting for God Himself to come bring the keys? Delphi Murders /// Under the Bridge /// Part 1 /// 509 Part 1 of 3 www.TrueCrimeGarage.com Delphi, Indiana - February 13, 2017 - Middle school students Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the Monon High Bridge Trail and were murdered. So who is Mr. X? The next day, News 8 broke the story connecting Kegan Kline to the account. Of course it didn't stop hundreds of people from calling in tips, harassing the family, and enabling this dude who clearly needed help. If so, wouldnt the coroner be able to obtain DNA from the fetus? DELPHI, Ind. Some connection with Libby via geocaching. Say for instance LE arrested Mr. X and charged him with the double homicides of these two girls. Summer months. And if it was 43 seconds, it would be on Libbys phone! Was Mr X aware of the pregnancy and the murder was to hide that fact? Abigail,. How would she be a few weeks pregnant by a guy that just raped her? https://beyondhighbrow.com/2019/09/20/support-beyond-highbrow/. Read free previews and reviews from booklovers. Heading to delphi pd and showing his exhaustive google search that shows his POI and then promptly laughed out of town. Limitations on exclusive rights: Fair Use Notwithstanding the provisions of sections 106 and 106A, the fair use of a copyrighted work, including such use by reproduction in copies or phonorecords or by any other means specified that section, for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching (including multiple copies for classroom use) , scholarship, or research, is not an infringement of copyright. Richard Matthew Allen was arrested for the 2017 double murder of Liberty German and Abigail Williams in October 2022. Thank you for all the work on the Delphi case. Apparently neither girl was a virgin and both girls were sexually active in terms of PIV sex. I dont see a motive for Mr. X either, and he did live right there. But after reading all of this my personal opinion I think 3 people are involved. If you met me, you would laugh at them for saying that. Via LE Source A, Mr. X s roommate in 2011-2012 in Delphi told LE that BG was absolutely Mr. X. While we see a giant plush bear, thats too weird, so we will defer to the search party lady and agree with her statement. I find your blog very interesting. DELPHI, Ind. who put himself at the crime scene at 3pm. CN: Middle aged man, resident of Delphi. Two people appear to be conflated here in your article as Mr. X. The girls would have also been subject to hypothermia?? My ideas, of course, are just speculative like those put forth by others. A handgun, in order to do ballistics tests on it. I long held that Evansdale and Delphi were connected due to the inversely related murder dates and MOAs. I know that many of the previous POIs looked like the second sketch, but if you apply the logic that this was DP lying about who he saw, then that makes sense that only DP resembles the second sketch and the first was a red herring. Maybe on a dark spiritual level, yes, but I think the Delphi killer has nothing to do with the other murders now. We think the girl knew she was pregnant. Thats very embarrassing. DELPHI MURDERS Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found dead on Valentine's Day, 2017, a day after they vanished while hiking through the woods of the Historic Delphi trails. But where is the incentive for me to comment publicly if you are just going to try and discredit it? But alas, he raped one lass too many, and the law closed in on him holed up in his home, which now resembled Dodge City.
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